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♪ i had the intuition about the fact that human beings could heal themselves. >> deepak chopra offers insight about coping with fear and anxiety? >> stress is the stress. i like to think of stress like an ocean. if you are a skillful surfer, every wave is joy. >> bringing about optimal health and wellbeing?
>> the super brain is an integrated brain. >> solving global conflict as well, chopra says? >> the only solution is a creative solution consciousness. >> the new age guru talks about his close friend, the late michael jackson. >> michael was like a brother to me. he was very joyful. he was a genius. >> i spoke to deepak chopra in new york as he was preparing to publish a new book. >> you have been called a philosopher, an entrepreneur, an endo crinologist, a mystic. prefer? >> i think if you define yourself, you limit yourself. so none of them. >> or all of them? >> possibilities. >> you were a practicing physician you. when you came to the united states, you practiced medicine. what was that like? >> interesting because i trained in internal medicine and then in
endo chronology and neuro endo chronology. so i was turning the molecules -- studying the molecules of emotion. >> got me interested in how our biology. >> what i am trying to get at is: what was your lifestyle like? i heard it was pretty stressfum for you. >> in the beginning, the lifestyle was hectic. a lot of smoking and alcohol on occasions. >> why? why did you need that? >> it was the zeitgeist at the time. everybody did it. we do a light resuscitation, take care of a patient, go out and have a cigarette. when i came, during conferences, all of the doctors used to club. >> being part of the club meant smoking cigarettes and drinking >> yes. >> after a time, i understand that your beliefs in medicine, even though you were still
living in the states started to turn eastward again? >> i started exploring as a result of my training actually, you know, i mentioned that we were looking at the molecules of emotion. so, i was seeing the connection between consciousness and biology. i also was puzzled by the fact that you could have two patience that had the same illness, saw the same doctor but completely different outcomes. what was happening? i was confused. >> that's when i started actuallying looking in to eastern wisdom traditions, meditation, systems biology is a good work to explain it. >> can you clarify: i've never heard this term "molecules of emotion. what are those? do we all have those? >> yes. every emotion has a biological expression. if you are feeling love,
compassion, joy, empathy, equnamity, your brain starts to make things like dopamine, seratonin, oxitocin, opiates, endorph endorphins. these are antidepressants but they also are immuno modulators. if you are feeling anger, resistant, employment, depression, any of those, fear, then if you can you make makedrenaline but you make cortisol which weakens the immune system and has many other effects. so every moment, your genes influence what you are feeling, what you are thinking even the way you speak, how you look at your environment, your eating, your sleeping habits. this is a new science, which wasn't there even
10 years ago. >> right. the whole epi general itics field. to boil down what you said and make sure i understand it t you were an endocrinologist study different chemicals that influence our brains and immune systems and you start realizing at some point that if we can control these chemicals, we could actually create outcomes? >> that's a good way to say it. our body me between two states, one is inflammation. inflammation is a protective response. if you fall down, you injure yourself, you need the inflammatory response so you don't bleed to death. but, exaggerated inflammation or inappropriate inflammation directly or indirectly contributes to heart disease, cardiovascular accidents, autoimmune illnesses, infections, many ties of cancer. now, the other extreme is what
is called homeostasis, which means your body is self regulating and in perfect balance. okay? so we are always moving between these two extremes. homeostasis could be called the healing system which we never learned about in medical school, by the way. >> your father was an imminent cardiologist in india. so what did he think when you started sort of exploring these you know orthodox therapies. >> in the beginning, he was very disappointed because he thought i had wasted my education. >> he really had wanted you to be a doctor? >> yes. he very much wanted me to be. but when i explained to him the science behind what i was doing and how this was one day going to be -- i never heard the word "epi general itics or neuro plasticity which are now very common words, but i had an
intuition about the fact that themselves. >> do you feel like science has somewhat validated these are that you were talking about? >> science totally validated what i was talking about ain the '80s, i wrote a book called "quantum healing," which by the way was very popular with the lay person. so whatever i said was very popular with the general public. but not with medical people. i was called a charlatan, fraud, all kind of things. >> one of the things you espouse is this mind body connection and meditation is the vehicle by which you seem to say we can sort of gain control realties? >> medtation as in mindfulness of your life, mindfulness of
your choices, somewayness of your body, awareness of your minds space, your relationships, self reflex, self awareness, mindfulness, meditation. we have a paper coming out in a few months that we have just worked with six universities where even in four days of the practice of meditation, the level of talamease which controls age went up by 40%. >> you are telling me if i meditate and i am self aware, i can -- >> you will influence your biological age significantly. >> are we talking wrinkles? wrinkles. >> bags under our eyes? >> collagen. blood pressure, wrinkles, bone differencety, immune function, levels. >> unbelievable to me.
what's the science behind it? what's mechanisms? >> there is already science has published elizabeth blackburn, a noble laureate and dean ornish in the university of california in just the last three years published levels of enzyme telemarase going up with medation and lifestyle changes and diet and sleep and, properly dleepp sleep. >> how long does one have to meditate every day? >> it's instantationous. >> with all of the stresses of modern life? >> yeah. well, what's the stress? stress is the perception of threat, either psychological threat or emotional threat or physical threat. i like to think of stress like waves from the ocean. so, if you are a skillful surf you are, every wave is joy and ex hill arrestation. if you are not prepared, every wave is a disaster. >> so what's your prescription, though? if meditation is a sort of
. >> i am stephanie cy talking to deepak chopra. one of your many books you have written is a book called "super brain" with a noted harvard neuro scientist named rudy tanzy. what is a super brain? >> a super brain is an integrated brain. we have three parts to our brain. we have a reptilian brain, which goes back 300 million years, which is only involved in fight or flight.
it's survival. and it still dominates our world right now. you know, i am using my hand right now because this is a handy model of the brain. this would be a spinal chord. this would be a reptilian brain called the limbic brain called your emotional brain. your emotional brain regulates your hormones as we now know through neuro plasticity, epi general itics, all of the things we spoke about and your cordcal brain where we reflect, imagine, make choices, orchestrate conscious intention, creativity, all of that. so the ideal super brain integrated brain, you don't use your reptilian brain at all. so when you are stressed, you stop, st-t-o-s-t-o-p, stop, tak deep breaths, smile. observe what's happening in your body and proceed with compassion and awareness. >> again, what does the science
expression of consciousness. >> you say meditation can benefit not only individuals but societies. and you are doing research for gallup on how conductivity can lead to peace. can you talk about the prem is behind that research? >> the gallup research is in five areas so far. career wellbeing, physical wellbeing, community wellbeing, and financial wellbeing. it seems they are all related. so, if you are happy in your career, of course, you will be successful. right? most people aren't. only 20% of people are happy in their careers. more people on monday morning die. social wellbeing means your net work of family and friends. physicalwl wellbeing. do you sleep well? are you rested? do you have stress or not? do you eat properly? ets. and then community wellbeing is your community safe?
are you able to walk at night without anxiety? and many other things. and then financial wellbeing means that you have no anxiety about money. these things can be quantified. so, if you score, say, 7 or more out of 10 when we quantify it, then you are thriving. if you score between 4 and 7, you are struggling. and if you score less than 4, then you are suffering. the gallup data was so interesting that we could actually predict with the data we had, we could predict what was going to happen in libya, in happened. >> explain that. >> well, the majority of the people were in the suffering station and social unrest happens, traffic accidents increase, violence happens. you know, i teach a class on this at kellogg university and one of my students in the class
was gadaffi's son. >> wow. >> and basically, they wanted to quote, unquote rebrand libya and into a country that paid attention to wellbeing because they were aware of the data. >> was it one of the sons? >> he died. he died three weeks after he left my class. it was very sad because, you know, you could see that there was this absolute huge anxiety occur. >> libya is just one of many places in the midst of crisis? >> in crisis right now. >> talk about how you viewed the world at this point. is it at a tenuous time? >> if you have 50% of the world living on less than $2 a day, that's catastrophe and we have that right now. poverty? >> it's rooted in poverty and lack of education. those two things.
>> it has nothing to do with power struggles or religions or fights over resources? >> no. i don't think so. i think it i think it's mostly poverty. of course, what happens is when you have radical poverty and lack of education >> unscrupu louse leaders become demagogues and tie rats but the root cause is lack of education, lack of resources. >> can the meditation that you prescribe for so many ills ? >> it's for everyone. doesn't cost anything. remember, meditation increases self awareness. we still have to address the root causes of violence which come from lack of education, sometimes abysmal ignorance and
past history of violence and lack resources. right now, we are seeing this whole violence in gaza and so on, you know. and people are always trying to take sides. on so who is right? who is wrong when, in fact, the only solution is a creative solution and consciousness. yesterday, i posted 10 points of how you can resolve any conflict. do you want me to give them? >> sure. >> speak with respect even with your enemy. good manners, politeness, respect, deference will get you a long way. okay? the number 1 cause of hostility in the world is lack of respect. number 2, recognize that in any conflict, there is the perception of injustice on both sides, outsitherwise, there would not be a conflict. number 3, recognize that both sides are coming from fear.
number 4, refrain from belligerence. number 5, understand emotional intelligence because people don't make intellectual decisions. they make emotional decisions, the best of them. emotional intelligence is be in touch with your tealings. be touch with the other person's feelings. communicate consciousley and recognize the value of empathy. number 6, declare your values and try to understand other people's values. they are different than yours, but they are not necessarily wrong. there is a history behind those values, a cultural history behind those values. number 6, don't prove somebody wrong and make them lose face. they will never forgive you. number 5, 7, 8? >> yeah. >> learn to forgive and learn to ask for forgiveness. and finally, don't bring in ideology and religion because everybody thinks that their
religion is the best. so that shouldn't be part of the conversation. number 10, the most important, if you follow all of this, find a way to partner economically. okay? if i sit down with somebody in somebo somebody, a teenager inis in israel or a young adult and ask them what do you want? they want to be safe. they want to go to school. they want to be successful in their careers. there are today enough resources to create partnerships, you know, you could be living in calcutta and have a business or an employment in chicago right now. so we are not using the resources that we have to solve these conflicts, just trying to prove the other person wrong. it's all about the past. it's been going on for 2:00 years, you know. we are not going to learn years, you know. we are not going to learn.
>> the worst thing you can do is try to solve a problem in the same way as in the level of consciousness in which the problem was created. >> you once boiled down the problems in the world today instincts that predatory males have to survive. i guess it's the reptilian brain you refer to. do you think the world will ever be able to move past that? >> i hope so. otherwise, we rink our extinction. there have been mass extinctions in the past, the last one was 65 million years ago when the mete right disappeared. >> they happened to be reptiles? >> now, we are the predator. right? from mechanized death to climate change to the extinction of species to the destruction of the ecosystem. it's human beings.
nature can stand so much and ultimately, whatever that consciousness might say the human experiment was interesting but didn't work. >> this is talk to al jazeera. more with deepak chopra in a minute. >> hundreds of days in detention. >> al jazeera rejects all the charges and demands immediate release. >> thousands calling for their freedom. >> it's a clear violation of their human rights. >> we have strongly urged the government to release those journalists. >> journalism is not a crime.
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the world, you know, the big album. he was very innocent. he was very joyful. he was a genius in terms art. >> his craft? >> his craft. >> was he misunderstood? >> he could go into a state of consciousness which i would only call transcendence. he was not of this world when he went into that state of consciousness. the tragedy was the pe psi accident, after which he started getting pumped narcotics and doctors became perpetuators and they actually caused his addiction, person pet waited his addiction and finally, he was killed by a prescription drug. >> did you try to advise him because that sys. >> michael had an ability to totally disappear when he wanted to. when he disappeared, i knew he
was now somebody was enabling him and it was usually a doctor. okay? and there are these doctors, by the way, in hollywooding we call them conceirge hotel so you can check in to a hotel. >> i heard you live a modest life for somebody who is worth up to $50 million. >> i fly jet blue if i can and i carry $100, and about $30,000 in my bank account. the rest, i give to my family. endeavors, yes. >> so your son did a documentary, your son, gotham, da filmmaker and what was striking was that you never put down your cell phone? overload? >> that was a very good documentary, and that was the last time i actually used a cell
phone unconsciously. >> and on a family vacation? >> i don't do it anymore. and so that was the documentary that brought me a lot of self awareness. only your family can see you as you really are. >> how do you maintain your inner peace? because a lot of us are trying to figure out how to unplug? >> i wake up morning. i meditate for two hours, a andy then either i take a yoga class or i go to the gym with a trainer, and then after that, i just do what i am told to do. i accept the present moment as it is. but i am committed, by the way, every day to a joyful inner jetic body, to a loving connection with the world and compassion, to a reflective and clear mind and to lightness of flow. >> how much sleep do you get? >> i go to bed around, so that's pretty good. >> is there anything that keeps
you up at night? >> no. actually, i practice a technique called yoga nedra. i observe my breath and observe my body and i observe my mental space and then i introduce the intention that my spirit or my consciousness is going to witness my dream state, and that's when i get ideas for books and things like that. so my sleep is very restful. it has a quality of yoga, witnessing awareness. >> thank you so much? >> thank you. >> great to meet you? >> yeah. >> aljazeera america presents a break through television event borderland... >> are you tellin' me it's ok to just open the border, and let em' all run in? >> the teams live through the hardships that forced mira, omar and claudette into the desert. >> running away is not the answer...
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